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D can rule as they please Soon their heavily garrisoned forts dot the countryside Their settlers follow after carving homesteads out of other men's landEvery Cimmerian longs to drive the intruders out with fire and sword but they must stay their hands for the Auilonians have promised savage reprisals Then intolerably the Auilonian commander takes a wholly dishonorable interest in the weaver's daughter and he's not a man to wait or even ask permissionIt's not a recipe for a peaceable outcome.. This book was pretty much as I expected gripping but terribly written Harry Turtledove writes like a delinuent 12 year old and his subject matter being the stuff of video games this only enforces the impression This is the first Conan book I ve read I started with this one because the goodreads Conan chronology instructed me to do so Hopefully some of the others especially the originals by Robert E Howard and the Robert Jordan ones will be better In this book Conan is only 12 13 This is ridiculous Turtledove keeps stressing how big and buff he is and I m just not believing it A 12 year old cannot get that buff This is just a technicality and is beside the point but what I m trying to say is that this version of Conan is completely not believable Sure maybe Conan looks like his Arnold Schwarzenegger incarnation when he s 25 but not when he s 12 He is also way too angry and brooding Why does every fantasy hero have to be angry and brooding It s absurd It s as if Turtledove really wanted to write about the adult Conan but wrote about the kid instead for some unknown reason The only reason I gave this book two stars rather than 1 is because I enjoyed it despite the vigor with which I have condemned it It s a light read and reuires very little thinking in part because the plot dialogue and action scenes are all complete junk Feral out Krismis van Map Jacobs of Girls Are Coming Out of the Woods other men's landEvery Cimmerian longs to drive the intruders Crust From Sourdough Spelt and Rye Bread to Ciabatta Bagels and Brioche out with fire and sword but they must stay their hands for the Auilonians have promised savage reprisals Then intolerably the Auilonian commander takes a wholly dishonorable interest in the weaver's daughter and he's not a man to wait Til Death Do Us Part (Vows, or even ask permissionIt's not a recipe for a peaceable Mensa Riddles Conundrums outcome.. This book was pretty much as I expected gripping but terribly written Harry Turtledove writes like a delinuent 12 year Julie of the Wolves old and his subject matter being the stuff The Right Swipe of video games this Touched only enforces the impression This is the first Conan book I ve read I started with this Dark Prophet The Chronicles of Koa one because the goodreads Conan chronology instructed me to do so Hopefully some Ugly Fish of the The Math of Life and Death 7 Mathematical Principles That Shape Our Lives others especially the Little Gods originals by Robert E Howard and the Robert Jordan Ensorcelled The Erotic Adventures of Jane in the Jungle Book 9 only 12 13 This is ridiculous Turtledove keeps stressing how big and buff he is and I m just not believing it A 12 year The Poems The Collected Works of W B Yeats old cannot get that buff This is just a technicality and is beside the point but what I m trying to say is that this version Sylvia Pankhurst of Conan is completely not believable Sure maybe Conan looks like his Arnold Schwarzenegger incarnation when he s 25 but not when he s 12 He is also way too angry and brooding Why does every fantasy hero have to be angry and brooding It s absurd It s as if Turtledove really wanted to write about the adult Conan but wrote about the kid instead for some unknown reason The Attack of Apollyon: Revenge of the Locusts only reason I gave this book two stars rather than 1 is because I enjoyed it despite the vigor with which I have condemned it It s a light read and reuires very little thinking in part because the plot dialogue and action scenes are all complete junk

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E year or so before he becomes the wandering adventurer we know from the tales of Howard and othersOn the verge of adulthood he lives in a Cimmerian hamlet caring for his ailing mother working in his father's smithy and casting his eye on the weaver's daughter next doorThen war comes an invasion by the Auilonian Empire Conan burns to join the fight but he's deemed too young Then from the border country comes an unbelievable report The Auilonians have smashed the Cimmerian defending forces an. And I will tell you one thing no matter how little you care to hear it no one dies of a broken heart even if people wish they could Do you understand that As a kid I collected uite a few of the old de Camp and Carter editions of the Conan the Barbarian stories The Robert E Howard originals amazed me but the further the books stretched beyond him the less interest I had in reading them But Conan of Venarium was penned by Harry Turtledove whose alternate history is uite good so I figured I d give this one a try Of course it is about a young Conan and I m always trepidatious about giving backstory to characters who seem better off without that baggage Looking at you Anakin Jimmy Howlett Legolas the elfAnyhow this was okay Turtledove is a good writer and the bloodshed of the last third of book definitely felt Conan esue but elsewhere Conan s tribe seemed a bit too civilized and not uite as bull headed or impetuous as I expectedAnd then there are other problems Main villain Stercus pretty much a creeper That s uncomfortable but it also doesn t make sense in the context of the story Modern sensibilities aside he s creeping on girls who in the actual middle ages probably would have been married in their mid teens Plus even if he is a flat out dirty old man it just doesn t make sense that his troupe of soldiers would turn on him uite so uickly especially after a successful campaign against a rampaging barbarian horde After all these guys are the fantasy euivalent of a conuering Roman legion and historically not too well regarded when it comes to their treatment of women after a lusty conuest I get the dial back but since the whole plot hinges on Stercus s proclivities it just seems odd The book has its structural problems too There are a lot of side characters and the d nouement after the climatic fall of Venarium goes on way too long But the worst offender is the grafting of some really misplaced mystical elements into the story Conan s creator Robert E Howard blended sorcery and monsters into his Conan tales seamlessly but here a phantom temple and a sheep stealing demon seemed shoe horned into the plot which it also seriously derails because Conan the Boy pretty effortlessly offs a 40 foot magic snake and a flying demon by chapters 3 and 5 and now we re supposed to be worried about how he ll fare against some lout with garden ho I think he s got this Nuts I m making things sound worse than they are Conan of Venarium is a fine fantasy book I mostly enjoyed it and probably would have enjoyed it even if some of the logical inconsistencies were tightened up But unless you are diehard Conan fan Turtledove s other work is a better place to go to really appreciate this author s talents and I m not sure that Conan of Venarium is anything than a minor coda to the legendary character

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A new Conan adventure from one of today's most popular writers of fantasy and SFFor decades millions of readers have thrilled to the Conan of PDFEPUB or adventures of Conan the barbarian adventurer invented by Robert E Howard and further chronicled by other fantasy greats including such notables as L Sprague de Camp Poul Anderson and Robert JordanNow Harry Turtledove one of today's most popular writers of fantasy and SF contributes a novel to the Conan saga a tale of Conan in his youth in th. This is the only Conan novel by alternate history maven Harry Turtledove In William Galen Gray s chronology it is the first Conan tale followed by Legions of the Dead and The Thing in the CryptOn the one hand it is not actually a bad read for a sword not much sorcery novel but it has some real problems with fidelity to Robert E Howard s Conan In fact if you can forget it s supposed to be a Conan preuel it works okay However as a tale of the sword swinging barbarian it has uite a few holesThe story takes place before the first of Robert E Howard s tales though he did allude to the Auilonian outpost of Venarium which was overcome by Conan and his people Turtledove faces a problem how to allow the Auilonians to establish Venarium in Cimmeria and to keep it standing The Cimmerians of the Conan saga don t come across as meek or submissive I imagine something akin to Fort Tuscelan s struggle for survival in Howard s Beyond the Black RiverFor me Turtledove does not pull it off very well The way Venarium is founded and the Cimmerian response is not at all what I depict Regarding Conan s home village Duthil it comes across as your standard medieval village There houses with several rooms shops a main street this does not remotely strike one as a barbarian community And we re at the root of the problem An unlikely premise the way Venarium was established and an unbelievable depiction of Cimmeria It s going to be hard to win over a knowledgeable Conan fan after this startA Conan tale with what I believe to be a much realistic portrayal of Howard s vision is John Maddox Roberts Conan the Valorous Further the Conan Role Playing Game supplement Cimmeria presents a palatable view of the land and how the people livedThe attitudes of the Cimmerians seem awfully civilized for a nation of well you know barbarians In fact again it seems rather medieval To his credit one thing Turtledove does well is incorporate the Auilonian soldiers into the story Their scenes give some depth to the tale This is offset somewhat by the stereotypical bad guy in this case Count Stercus He is about as deep as Snidely WhiplashThe last chapter shifts to a tongue in cheek style a tone completely out of place with the entire book It is just about as silly as the chapter titled The Temple Out of Time which does not remotely fit into the story I haven t read all of the Conan books yet but this is the first I ve come across with no sex Perhaps not surprising since he s only 15 at the end of the tale but it is another uncharacteristic element of the bookWhile this seems like a pretty negative review I didn t mind reading this book it just isn t an authentic Conan tale It reminds me of uinn Fawcett s Mycroft Holmes novels They were nice Victorian Era James Bondish books they just weren t Mycroft Holmes In case you don t know Mycroft was Sherlock Holmes smarter older brother and not at all a secret agent type of guyBut I hoped for a better Conan coming of age tale Since the copyright holders of Conan are inflexible regarding official pastiches non Howard tales it is unlikely anyone will be given permission to tell the Venarium story again Hopefully an unauthorized attempt will succeed where this one failed

  • Paperback
  • 272
  • Conan of Venarium
  • Harry Turtledove
  • English
  • 05 September 2019
  • 9780765343888

About the Author: Harry Turtledove

Dr Harry Norman Turtledove is an American novelist who has produced a sizeable number of works in several genres including alternate history historical Conan of PDF/EPUB or fiction fantasy and science fictionHarry Turtledove attended UCLA where he received a PhD in Byzantine history in Turtledove has been dubbed The Master of Alternate History Within this genre he is known both for creating original sce.



10 thoughts on “Conan of Venarium

  1. says:

    This is the only Conan novel by alternate history maven Harry Turtledove In William Galen Gray's chronology it is the first Conan tale followed by Legions of the Dead and The Thing in the CryptOn the one hand it is not actually a bad read for a sword not much sorcery novel but it has some real problems with fidelity to Robert E Howard's Conan In fact if you can forget it's supposed to be a Conan preuel it wor

  2. says:

    Robert Howard never wrote the story of Conan's childhood or provided the reason why he left Cimmeria and never returned Harry Turtledove gives us a serviceable version of the young Conan story complete with reuisite giant snake and a demon but mostly a story of occupation war and a view of how both sides see the other in a conflict

  3. says:

    I've held out on reading any Conan books not authored by creator Robert E Howard but I loved Turtledove's Guns of the South and had to give t

  4. says:

    Conan as written by the master of alternative history Will Conan be met by Swiss from the future offering him an arsenal of Sig Sauers? Will aliens invade Auilonia at the heart of their battle with the Picts? Will Conan give up the sword and be

  5. says:

    Excellent a convincing preuel to all the Conan stories

  6. says:

    “And I will tell you one thing no matter how little you care to hear it – no one dies of a broken heart even if people wish the

  7. says:

    I can't remember when I last read a book or story with the famous 'Conan' as hero It's been many years for sure but there was a time that I greatly enjoyed those books And so when I saw this title on a shelf I was

  8. says:

    This book was pretty much as I expected gripping but terribly written Harry Turtledove writes like a delinuent 12 year old and his subject matter being the stuff of video games this only enforces the impression

  9. says:

    In the saga of Conan the Cimmerians the sacking of Venarium represents his emergence upon the Hyborian stage Harry Turtledove tells a raucous tale filled with battles barbarian bloodlust and a mite of magic fir good measure In Conan of Venarium a disgraced Aulonian general leads an army into the southern forests of the clannish Cimmerians Having beaten the initial resistance from the natives the general establishes an outpost which he ca

  10. says:

    I read this book for two reasons I am a fan of the Conan Sagas going back to my late teensearly twenties and I am considering a fantasy novel in the Conan vein I can’t say I am a hardline fan as some are trashing the book for not living up to the character of the Cimmerian forged by Robert E Howard so long ago However whatever issues the b

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