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    If you open up the 20th Anniversary Edition of GEB you'll see that the first thing Douglas Hofstadter does in the introduction the v

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    This is a nice book if you want to understand the Gödel incompleteness proof and get an account that is both accessible and reasonably rigorous There's a lot of other fun stuff as well but it's the Gödel proof that's the core of t

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    Expand your mind Not for the faint of heart yet by no means dry Hofstadter makes some fascinating observations about emergent prope

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    As I work my way through this dense book I am reminded of the Zen tale of 4 blind men and an elephant To settle

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    I could not with a clear conscience recommend this book to everyone because I'm simply not that cruel It would be like recommending large doses of LSD to everyone some small minority will find the experience invaluably enlightening but for most people it's just going to melt their brainWhile you do not need to be a profes

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    from Randall Munroe Mouseover says 'This is the reference implementation of the self referential joke' I know I

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    This book was so metal Gödel’s incompleteness theorem which states that all consistent axiomatic formulations of number theory include undecidable propositions is certainly a large part of what made the book so fascinating and addictive T

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    If I were clever enough I would write this review as a fugue This is the formal structure that Hofstadter uses throughout Gödel Escher Bach Whether the whole book is a fugue I'm not smart enough to tell But the fugue is used as a metaphor for layers of brain activity thoughts superimposed over the “hardware” of the brain the neuronsIn fact though I would recommend starting at the beginning of the book I

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    This book told me something about intelligence the smartest thing to do is to avoid this book's overly lengthy babblings of a self important graduate student who is way too impressed with himself It took this guy over 700 pages to illustrate by analogy his not particularly novel theory which he sums up finally as followsMy belief is that the explanations of 'emergent' phenomena in our brains for instance ideas hopes im

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    The reading of a book and its interpretation are determined in part by the cytoplasmic soup in which it is taken up This reader’s soup consists of a large portion of metaphiction This is how Hofstadter apparently intended to structure his work a Lewis Carroll styled dialogue between Achilles and Tortoise and friends introducing a subject followed by a rigorous but popularly accessible explication of that topic This is how I read Hofstadte

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REVIEW ´ E-book, or Kindle E-pub Ô Douglas R. Hofstadter

Douglas Hofstadter's book is concerned directly with the Bach An Epub #218 nature of “maps” or links between formal systems However according to Hofstadter the formal system that underlies. If you open up the 20th Anniversary Edition of GEB you ll see that the first thing Douglas Hofstadter does in the introduction the very first thing is grouse that nobody seems to understand what his book is about Not even its publishers or readers who just absolutely love it A uick glance at the back cover will give you the same impression even the glowing two sentence blurbs are hilariously vague all of them variations on the theme of Well that certainly was something Yes uite a wonderful something indeedSo how are you supposed to know whether to pick it up Or put less delicately how are you supposed to know whether reading all 740 dense sprawling pages is worth your while The short answer is Read this book if you like to think about thinking as well as to think about thinking about thinking The long answer makes me nervous since the typical review of this book apparently misses the point entirely I feel like I m starting out on thin ice Oh well I ll take a crack at it anywayAt its heart this book is about whether you can start with simple parts and from them build a system which is so complicated that it becomes than the sum of its parts in a significant sort of way For example scientists have a very clear understanding of how a single neuron functions They even have a fairly good understanding of how neurons operate in groups to take on specific tasks like wiggling your pinkie finger But there are around a hundred billion neurons in a human brain and the structure uickly becomes preposterously complicated groups of groups of groups of neurons all acting in interconnected ways to produce conscious thought How do we get something as complex as human consciousness out of something as simple and well understood as a neuronThe answer Hofstadter likes is that the brain operates on many different interacting levels and that conscious thought is a product of the complex interaction between all these levels So in order to understand something you re reading you depend on individual neurons operating in basically deterministic ways to move signals around your brain but you also depend on groups of neurons in your vision centers to recognize text as well as other groups of neurons on other levels to understand that text and other groups of neurons on other levels to fit that new understanding into the context of the previous sentence and so on All of this applies eually well to artificial intelligence which is Hofstadter s field It s just that an electronic brain would be built from transistors and subroutines instead of brain tissueThe title is a little misleading this book is not at all about how when you get right down to it Kurt Godel MC Escher and JS Bach are totally interrelated man Their work is just useful in getting deeper down into that idea of interacting layers that produce complexity For example Kurt Godel was a mathematician who proved that in any self consistent formulation of number theory you could generate theorems that while true were not provable in within that formulation Basically he showed that any formal mathematical system is necessarily incomplete in specific ways Here s the part where things start to get craaaaazy If you build a well formed number theory labeled X then X can be used to generate a proof of X s self consistency only if X is inconsistent The reverse is also true And all this relates back to how a system can be than the sum of its partsThese are definitely interesting ideas and very worth reading about but whether GEB is worth reading is a harder uestion It s a very well written well researched book I love that the author goes way way way out of his way to spend time explaining difficult ideas rather than to assume a dull or disinterested readership But sometimes that tendency to dig deeper can start to obscure the central point of a chapter I think that s why so many people lose track of what the book is actually about there really are a ton of fascinating ideas that are all given eual weightThe book hops between two different formats The first is your standard well written popular discussion of complex scientific artistic or philosophical ideas In fact Hofstadter is very good at this part He excels at getting the reader interested in and even excited about some traditionally inaccessible stuff The second format is a series of short dialogs between fictional characters interspersed between every chapter that help to allegorically enforce the ideas in whatever chapter Overall this approach is very good at getting you to understand the complicated ideas Hofstadter is getting at I found that my problems with the book weren t with the subject matter which was fascinating and enjoyable but with the author Ol Dougie H loves this material He loves it so much that he tries to infect you with his own personal sense of wonder and whimsy at how complex and beautiful art and life and science are And of course he s right but that s not the point If he trusted you to feel these things for yourself the book would be maybe 200 pages shorter As it is his constant pedagogical wordplay and artful brain teasers started out fun but after page 400 they started making me tired Also those forced injections of wonder and whimsy start to take on the flavor of little plugs for the personal fantasticness of Douglas Hofstadter For example his discussion of the language processing functions of the brain is interesting but did he really have to bring up the fact that he s fluent in Russian and translated Eugene Onegin In a short book or a movie cleverness can be fun and exciting In a 740 page tome not so muchI strongly recommend this book to a very narrow set of people If you think you d be interested in the subject matter AND you wouldn t mind playing simple word or math games in the service of understanding it AND the inner workings of a computer scientist s marvelous brain seem interesting to you then definitely read this book I enjoyed it and found it very fun and informative overall But if you read this review and you get the feeling you probably won t like this book you re probably right HEG (HISTORIA DE ESPAÑA) BACHARELATO AULA 3D: Historia De España. 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Gödel Escher Bach An Eternal Golden Braid

All mental activity transcends the system that supports it If life can grow out of the formal chemical substrate of the cell if consciousness can emerge out of a formal system of firing neuro. I could not with a clear conscience recommend this book to everyone because I m simply not that cruel It would be like recommending large doses of LSD to everyone some small minority will find the experience invaluably enlightening but for most people it s just going to melt their brainWhile you do not need to be a professional mathematician to appreciate this you really have to like math a lot You can t just sort of like it You can t just differ with the masses in not hating mathematics You can t just find it mildly interesting rather than utterly abstruse and inaccessible For example you pretty much have to find the following joke to be hilariousThere are 10 kinds of people in the worldThose who understand binary and those who don tIf you are slapping your knee right now then you might like this book If during the course of slapping said knee all the pens fell out of your pocket protector and landed scattered across the piece of paper you were using to make Venn diagrams to help you decide what to have for breakfast that of course is even betterIf you really like math then this is going to be one of the best books you ve ever read Go get it now But if you really like math then you ve almost certainly already read it If you haven t read it already then you can t possibly like math enough to enjoy it Hmmmmm There s a recursive paradox in there somewhere Best not to think about it It might melt your brain The Doctors Dating Bargain people it s just going to melt their brainWhile you do not need to be a The Collection professional mathematician to appreciate this you really have to like math a lot You can t just sort of like it You can t just differ with the masses in not hating mathematics You can t just find it mildly interesting rather than utterly abstruse and inaccessible For example you Whispers of Feathers pretty much have to find the following joke to be hilariousThere are 10 kinds of Entrepreneurial Vernacular pens fell out of your Advanced C Programming by Example pocket Poslije svega (After, protector and landed scattered across the Die Herrenschneiderei piece of

REVIEW ´ E-book, or Kindle E-pub Ô Douglas R. Hofstadter

Ns then so too will computers attain human intelligence Gödel Escher Bach is a wonderful exploration of fascinating ideas at the heart of cognitive science meaning reduction recursion and muc. This book told me something about intelligence the smartest thing to do is to avoid this book s overly lengthy babblings of a self important graduate student who is way too impressed with himself It took this guy over 700 pages to illustrate by analogy his not particularly novel theory which he sums up finally as followsMy belief is that the explanations of emergent phenomena in our brains for instance ideas hopes images analogies and finally consciousness and free will are based on a kind of Strange Loop an interaction between levels in which the top level reaches back down towards the bottom level and influences it while at the same time being itself determined by the bottom levelDuh